In this article, our anonymous author discusses the practical, common sense issues with the policy, the detailed policy issues within the student handbook, and a Biblical review of the alcoholic prohibition instated at Cedarville. The official Honor Code of BYU strictly outlaws camping trips with members of the opposite sex, though instances with separate accommodations for males and females will at least receive a modicum of consideration and reduced discipline if unauthorized. Theres morality, and then theres this. After dusk, mixed groups are not allowed to fraternize without chaperones because having a group of friends including males and females alike is not normal psychosocial behavior it is improper and apparently leads to premarital sex and dancing and other alleged affronts to Jesus. No college is perfect, I wouldnt go to any of these colleges, but youre giving them more crap than you should. That rule only applies to PUBLIC showings of movies, like if a student run organization wanted to have a movie night on the green for the student body. While BYU does accept students who do not belong to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, they are still required to participate in the community as if they were. It always has been, and always will be. Center for Teaching and Learning. Dallas Christian College directly addresses individuals who feel their extremely staunch policies are either too slack or too restrictive, stating that such measures strike a balance between freedom and Christian piety.
Court documents reveal new details in Cedarville University stabbing That's right, an MBA degree. I go to Oral Roberts University. I always go by the philiosiphy that people dont care how much you know until they know how much you care. So Asbury, Stop preaching with your snobby attitudes and start caring about the people you preach too.you might actually gets Gods message accross that way. I would love to have continued healthy dialogue about issues such as these, but in person. DO you know what these strict colleges are invoking by making these kinds of religious standards? If you want to have a Christian school, make it conform to Biblical principles as much as possible. Bob Jones University requires all students to attend regular church, Sunday school, society, Bible conferences, artist series programs, and vespers services on campus, though not necessarily in a single week. I know Id want someone to visit me. Instagram. They help stem the tide of STDs, date rape, the dangers of substance abuse, etc.,
Cedarville University Reviews | GradReports Wow, imagine that. As one of the underground liberal minority at the college, I disagreed with almost all the guidelines.
2023 Softball Schedule - Cedarville University Athletics Rebecca There is little finacial aid available in my opinion and the finacial aid people were less than helpful. Access Canvas. So even if we (younger generation) are unholy, damned, and reckless WE have the right to be and i am proud to be invoking my first amendment rights, at this moment by stating my very valid oppinion because I CAN. Use of food and drink is listed by Paul in a discussion of disputable matters. We are advised to be careful not to place stumbling blocks in a brothers way. Alcohol is held up as equally detrimental as illegal substances regardless of whether or not a student partakes responsibly and remains at or above the drinking age and the University does not discriminate on whether or not consumption or possession takes place on- or off-campus, either. Attending chapel is mandatory, and it is heavily suggested that not participating in other Christian ceremonies or functions is highly frowned upon. Cedarville justifies their policy by referencing the Drug-free Schools and Communities Act, which requires universities to provide, Standards of conduct that clearly prohibit, at a minimum, the unlawful possession, use, or distribution of illicit drugs and alcohol on school property or as part of any school activities foremployees (Policy)orstudents (Code of Conduct) and a statement of disciplinary actions associated with those violations. I could go on, but. And students coloring their hair is definitely not banned.just unnatural colors are like a student couldnt dye their hair green for instance. I have visited Pensacola Christian College many times and am planning to go there this fall. It was absolute bullshit, but because I had short hair( girl) I guess I wasnt godly enough They are doing more damage to the kids that have no idea what theyre getting into. leftover elk tags wyoming; when did rumspringa originate; cedarville university crazy rules The Yellow Jackets compete for championships in 16 NCAA. America as a whole is definitely not a good indicator of Gods standards as displayed in the nature of his Son and set forth in his commands. I went to Asbury and had no issues. you people that are hatin on the Christian colleges are so corrupted by the devil that you think goin out drinkin, havin a good time, aborting babies, sex outside of marriage, and the overall stupidity that youre involved in is what really makes you happy. Are these people protected?, No, they are dead! Thats how many of those regulations mentioned in the synopsis I broke while attending the sixth college on this list. Im not a Christian and yet I do not have pictures pasted on the internet of myself drunk and naked I dont even use Facebook or alcohol. There is a fence with razor wire enclosing the entire campus. In conclusion, I dont think that students are better off if they go to these schools, and I would not encourage anyone to do so. This biblical teaching, coupled with the reality that alcohol is addictive to many and that alcohol-related problems pose a major threat to college students, warrants wisdom concerning the use of alcohol. The point is, in my opinion, someone needs to establish guidelines for our youth.. The professors are very intentional so that studying the bible isn't just for academia, but . What do you think they do? Homosexuality is also wrong,because it upset God to the extent of destroying sodom and gomorah.
The Sobering truth of Cedarville's Archaic Prohibition Rules right), rather than having anything go and reaping the consequences of debauchery, Ugh. Mature, responsible people are able to think for themselves and moderate their own behavior. If you tell them honestly what excessive use of alcohol does to people, they wont *want* to get wasted. Incidentally, the D.A.R.E. Unfortunately, that will probably never happen for one simple reason: Cedarville is so concerned with their image that they are more willing to treat their students like children than follow actual Biblical principles. Dictatorial societies (from countries to colleges) always invoke claims of protecting people from themselves or the protecting the society, but are always first and foremost about preserving the power structure of an elite and repressing any who might challenge the dogma they use to maintain that control. I read the qualifications for these schools and got to thinking about it seriously. such as premarital sex, pornography, etc. What if the rule was actually because the majority of other schools have Title IX sexual assault cases involving the influence of alcohol? However, no mention is made of men wearing very short shorts or tank tops that expose most of their upper body. I transferred to and a public univ and found it to be a great fit for me, realizing that everything along my journey (both good and bad) helped to make me stronger and teach me about life sono regrets. I attended Liberty from 99-01 and it was great. Well I attended Pennsacola and BJU and frankly PCC was much better.
Court documents reveal new details in Cedarville University stabbing Wow, the writer of this article is very intolerant. Clothing should be gender appropriate. i really hope if youre not saved that this eats away at your consciene soo much that you cant live like that anymore and come to a saving knowledge of Jesus ChristJohn 3:16- For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that WHOSOEVER believeth in him should NOT perish, but have everlasting lifeso it doesnt matter who you are, what youve done or whatever you case is, God wants to and will save you if you only call on His name. The only strict rule they have is drinking and they wont kick you out if they find out you drank. Secondly, it promulgates the idea that women's bodies are shameful and ought to be covered up. He transferred to public school where he had no friends and even less support and encouragement from faculty/students, and two months later he shot himself. The former may not wear makeup, because breaking archaic gender tropes will rip the very foundations of society asunder. Ill leave you with a quote to ponder. But people need to remember that we are fearfully and wonderfully made, and casting people out of a school because they dont meet excessive regulations arent bringing them any closer to God. Of course, the handbook does too. Rather, Carson rightly points out that dispute only relates to doctrines concretely repeated throughout scripture. Adding onto my last post you must have been reading a 40 year old manual when you wrote this stuff about Asbury. As part of this I had to see the Dean of Men and he told me of a couple who rubbed against each other until bad things happened apparently he was expecting me to admit the same (4) One time in a private setting in a social area for couples to spend time she sat on my lap we were told by a person representing the college this was inappropriate behavior; (5) chapel attendance was required and attendance taken and I believe 2 misses meant disciplinary action (6) guys and girls were not allowed to swim together although I believe this has changed (7) Very little help was provided if you needed help in academics, although one of the college missions is to provide help to those in KY who had inferior high school experiences (6) It was extremely rule oriented it was about following the rules and not about development and transformation as a responsible ethical who loved God and Christ. The school works to develop what God has put into someone, unlike schools like the Ohio State University, which declared to my entering class their goal to fail you in your first year. However, these organizations listed in this article are forcing students to live by ridiculously strict rules and I dont see how anyone can think this is the right way to live. I do not see why people judge these schools so harshly as a non-christian I still think that these colleges are not wrong. Most schools understandably want their students to stay away from breaking the law or acting inconsiderately towards others but Ozark Christian College also places tight regulations on legal activities as well. It is a small institution with an enrollment of 3,540 undergraduate students. I went to Loyola Marymount in Los Angeles and the school is laid back we can have alcohol on campus go to dance clubs if we want to,so I say this GO FUCK yourself you religious nuts, I attended Loyola Marymount University in Los Angeles They dont have strict rules lie BJU which I think is a little extreme If I want to go to Dance Clubs or a bars I will Let them try to stop me because I will Tell to where to go and how to get there. I know its frustrating to have people object to aspects of your lifestyle and faith, but I dont think responding with condescending bias is helpful. It is NOT frowned upon if you do not attend other Christian things like church simply suggested. todays society are those who want to ban guns because they kill people, yet want to drink, smoke, and do whatever the hell they want because its there right. both in this life and in the next. and I would rather put up with some questionably strict rules if that meant that For these students, drinking is not only unwise, it is also illegal. While this is undoubtedly true, the policy fails in two major areas. Sex is frequent, furious, and freaky. Woe be unto a civilization who rejects the counsel of the Holy One, and would none of his reproof! The second problem is that Cedarville seems oblivious to the fact that the same thing has happened at Cedarville. Students who engage in underage drinking or provide alcohol to underage individuals may be subject to legal sanctions in addition to University penalties. Students are also prohibited from recreational drug use, misusing legally prescribed medications, or using synthetic street drugs or medical marijuana. 14; 1 Cor. What about people like me with throat issues? I can understand dancing in a lewd manner in clubs being prohibited (not really, actually I cant understand most of these being prohibited even when it comes to upholding an image of morality) but what about ballet? I know that not all Christian colleges and universities are this strict and can be good. Students are also reminded that underage drinking violates federal law. they as adults need freedom to make own choices.
2 Tips and 2 Rules from a Maddox RA - Student Life - Student Life While this article certainly peers into their doings from the perspective of an outsider, it admits that the real answers remain entirely subjective and highly nebulous. So, to be clear: Students may not eat at a brewery, alehouse, or pub even if they are just going to eat food because they can be dismissed from the University. (If you do not understand that quote.) I dont think that students are better off if they attend these schools. Nor have I lied to him about my history; including the fact that Im a divorcee from an arranged marriage at barely 16 to a man Id met twice, arranged to keep me out of trouble.
Michigan State gunman carried note threatening New Jersey schools Cedarville University is intentional about creating a Christ-centered community, rigorous in our pursuit of scholarship, and balanced in our approach to Christian lifestyle. Alcohol makes a person less alert and diminishes self-control. All resident and commuter students at Oral Roberts University are required to attend church at least twice a week and find themselves to a highly restrictive dress code. I agree that dancing and such is probably a step to far, but the types of people who go to Christian colleges and the like are probably not as bothered by the restrictions you name. First, he writes that something that can be disputed does not make it a theologically disputed doctrine. Access Gmail. Its that simple. OR a girl from State college,, who has photos of herself posted , throwign up drunk in a men`s bathroom, has slept with numerous other men, a couple of abortions behind her, and had sex with strangers on spring break because she was drunk and had to take penecilin afterward, then had to lie to her future husband about it all mmmm i`lll take the girl from the christian college,, thanks. If anything, its pushing them further away because they feel even more separated from God. From 1920-1933, the United States unwittingly participated in a massive experiment into the idea of illegalizing alcohol of any kind. Sure, we get frustrated with the rules, but the vast majority of the time, we are too busy to really notice or care. No one is forcing anyone to attend those colleges/universities. Like that other poster, we werent able to read the handbook until the day we arrived. Because the nude human body is just as detrimental to society as a sawed-off shotgun. The problems arise when we disregard our fellow believers who are of weaker conscience. I Attended LMU in Los Angeles we do to have strict rules about clothes we can wear pants So nyah nyah yah. Cedarville College was established in 1887 by five godly men who envisioned a college that would provide Christian higher education. For one year, I attended a college that was, easily, as strict as any of the above. When asked why not, her response is always that she lost a lot of her motivation and dedication for faith development because of the Asbury rules you were not allowed to grow up into responsible adulthood. By the time we were ready to graduate and go to college, that important decision, like most others, had either already been made for us or pushed so strongly onto us that we felt there were no other options. If you are a student at Cedarville, you know that the university resides in the historically dry town of Cedarville, OH. Again, some book says so doesnt provide a justification of anything. As a former student from 2010-2012, I can attest that convocation wasnt required, students could hang out in mixed groups on and off campus, and public signs of affection are commonplace, and Im not talking about hand-holding. That basically means being a jackass and expressing your self is better than being idiotic enough to try to stop them because of the First Amendment. Participating in dance that is sexually provocative, occurs in unhealthy environments, or accompanies lyrics that do not reflect a pure and godly lifestyle is prohibited. __________________________ Also, youre a little too sarcastic in your sentences. Furthermore, the views expressed in this article certainly do not represent those of Cedarville University. They make you go to bed by 11pm every night, even on weekends, no matter what homework projects you may may be working on, no matter what, no exceptions, unless you want demerits. Now on to the next part.
No Safeguard, No Whole: Why I Left Cedarville University 3:34). You can view it here. Perhaps they are harmless. If you make it conform to Biblical principles, it will be considered politically incorrect, and will be shut down as soon as possible. I regret to say that it was not from the Asbury experience. I would like if you can wright me. Even if this situation only befalls a small proportion of the students who attend, it is bad enough that it is a significant threat. No one is being coerced into paying thousands of dollars to go if they dont want to. Makeup really? If your happy with your life, enjoy it your clearly not hurting anyone and therefore absolutely entitled to that choice; and for many that way of life makes people better. -Using Profanity, really, it isnt allowed in any K-12 school, and they dont want people cussing their heads off here. Men may not grow their sideburns past their earlobes, have hair covering their ears, or keep moustaches beyond the corners of their mouths. It is for our own health and safety that these rules are in place: rules which we WILLINGLY submit to. We call our student handbook The Cedarville Experience because it includes many of the guidelines and principles that will shape your time at Cedarville. Students at these schools are missing out. The best approach is to research the college yourself and make your decsision. In the introduction of this article, many questions were raised, and no answers for any of them were argued for in the main body of the text. Movies again, the handbook gave the wrong message. My daughter graduated from Asbury this year. She came from a wonderful Christian church in Atlanta with tremendous faith, knowledge, and ability. Again, how many die every year from alcohol and tobacco? I accumulated more than 100 demerits during my first year and because of this, they did not allow to me to return the following year. 31:30). Either way, check your facts before you publish. I will be praying for you and I pray that God works in your life and makes you realize that saying nasty words about something is not going to take away the scars of what someone did to you, or the anger that results from it. A long time ago yes, it was a very conservative campus. Cedarville police were called to the Stevens Student Center Tuesday morning after a 911 caller reported that a male student had been stabbed. AND, IF I had not experienced Gods love, Why doesnt she try to show me instead of disipline me when I did nothing wrong!!!!!! program doesnt work for precisely this reason it doesnt teach kids that cocaine is worse than beer. That rule ONLY applies to publicly shown movies. Everyone should look at the evidence presented and formulate their own personal opinion of the matter. Cedarville's policy on alcohol is simply another notch in the post of treating students like children rather than adults. Seems irrelevant to me. Some may seem that way to those who dont adhere to a particular faith. Jesus drank wine. Raffles are not even allowed as fundraiser due to their association with gambling, which is also banned. Major infractions largely accepted by mainstream society and allowed under American law include dating violation[s], owning potentially offensive media (which will get confiscated), swimming with the opposite sex, patronizing a movie theatre, attending a concert, receiving a tattoo or piercing, gambling, possessing pornography, or purchasing and using tobacco (even when of age). Im thinking that the author of this either made up some bs to get people riled, or got his hands on a 40yr-old student manual. Clothing should not have slogans that are inconsistent with University values. But people can dance randomly if they want at any time of course as long as youre not grinding your boyfriend or getting down low, youre good. Nearly 70 percent of our undergraduates are under the legal drinking age. In other words, there is a difference between going out to drink with a friend who is an alcoholic and drinking in front of someone who is just offended by it. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); These days, college is expensive and not the best choice for everyone. Were MADE in Gods image, and so the things we feel and do were felt by God first! Unfortunately, 1 Corinthians 8 is the famous and ever-taken-out-of-context passage used by Christians to justify substituting their convictions for Biblical truths. It is not discouraged at all! I would strongly caution you to know he whom you so boldly challenge, and if you charge a holy God with unrighteousness, take note that it shall be accounted of in the day of your calamity. If, however, you only ensure that they grow up in an environment where these are banned, this only serves to increase their allure should they ever break free from the strict and dogmatic rules that you place to limit their actions. A lot of the comments here seem to be objecting to what the author said by defending these schools. So do they follow the rules or not? Cedarvilles policy on alcohol is simply another notch in the post of treating students like children rather than adults. I believe the answer lies with how students (like me) were raised. Woah this blog is magnificent i like reading your posts. In fact, they DID say, students should not drink too much alcohol, thereby maintaining self-control over their bodies. The point of this article was not to condone drunkenness, but to challenge Cedarvilles policy against responsible alcohol consumption for adults. And we can definitely dance. God created dance. . D.A. This is one of the major reasons stated by Dr. White himself. The only Biblical justification provided in the handbook is that it is listed as a disputable matter by Paul, which we will get into later. People have parties all the time. I read the comments first, and assumed that they were being prudes. Rather, they will be dependant on their belief in God to serve as a sort of eternal chaperone, which I think is unhealthy. According to the student handbook, Nearly 70% of our undergraduates are under the legal drinking age. Commuter students cannot cohabitate with significant others or any peers of the opposite sex, either, and anyone hoping to get married before the age of 21 is highly encouraged to seek counseling and receive parental permission. I love the Godly atmosphere it gives, and completely disagree with you. Students are notified of significant health risks associated with the improper use of certain substances, including those mentioned above. In addition, all students enrolled in 12 or more hours are required to attend at least one chapel event a week. Every college and university around the world expects its students to uphold certain standards. To write that students are fully aware of the rules is a twist of the truth and reality. Possessing legal pornography, light to moderate drinking (even non-alcoholic versions of beer or cocktails), gambling, premarital or extramarital sex (regardless of whether or not the latter take place within an open relationship), dressing immodestly, supporting or practicing religious beliefs in line with the occult (with the lines of what constitutes such practices never explicitly stated), using profanity, tobacco, engaging in or supporting homosexuality, and having or supporting abortions are also very much in violation of the schools strict moral guidelines.. She said, as a Christian thats how I live my life anyway. 13:13; Rom. I could go on and about more experiences like this during my 2 and a half years at this horrible place. 16 17. Christians not overtaken by an archaic dislike of alcohol from the 1920s can read this passage and apply it to Cedarville in this way: Students should not drink with students who are not legally allowed to do so and students should not drink too much alcohol, thereby maintaining self-control over their bodies. Just my humble, unbiased opinion; take it or leave it. This was not a good recipe for being a successful artist. The specific guidelines included below are shaped by biblical principles, community preferences, and cultural expectations in terms of propriety and professionalism. If you have questions or need more information, please contact the student life deans. degree, but never got it. That seems a tiny bit stricter than telling Christians to come to church once or twice a week. Still having nightmares. *, You may use these HTML tags and attributes:
. In addition to University prohibitions, state and federal law prohibits the unlawful sale, use, or possession of drugs and alcohol. The dress can best be described as business casual. Students struggling with drug or alcohol use may obtain confidential support at Counseling Services and University Medical Services. 3) If God destroyed a city because there were some gay people there, the takeaway shouldnt be that homosexuality is wrong, the takeaway should be that the Old Testament God is an evil monster who at best needs to be disobeyed and at worst needs to be destroyed. Also, the writer makes it sound as if the faculty of these schools were placing the students under arbitrary rules that go beyond reason. You are so used to being controlled that its normal or just easier to do what your are told. But do you know which degree is still highly valuable? I agree strongly with Tara. Third, many of these rules ban things that arent dangerous (eg dancing, scary or violent movies, and sex so long as the people involved know what they are doing and all proper precautions are used) and that are a lot of fun. Other than in the residence halls, shirts should be worn everywhere on campus, including the Callan Athletic Center. If your radar is accurate, it will not take you long to bag a highly-repressed freak. I graduated from ORU, great school! Drinking alcohol is certainly disputed between Christians with different opinions on it, but it is not a disputed doctrine. We are also warned to be careful about what we approve and to seek each others mutual edification. If a disciple of Christ becomes odious to others because of the radical measures that Christ calls us to, he will have followed the footsteps of his master; indeed, what else could be expected of him? People who attend strict colleges probably do so because they prefer a stricter environment.